When Dad Was the Problem: Grieving a Toxic or Abusive Father
The Dead Dads Podcast

Nobody prepares you for the grief that arrives with a side of relief.
When your father was cruel, absent, or quietly corrosive for decades, his death doesn't clear the air — it seals it. The questions you never got to ask are now permanently unanswerable. The apology you spent years half-waiting for is officially never coming. And somewhere in the middle of all that, there's a feeling you weren't expecting: a strange, low hum of something that doesn't quite have a name.
This is the grief people don't talk about. And it's some of the hardest kind.
The Grief That Doesn't Look Like Grief
Most people picture grief as visible. Tears at the graveside. That hollow look at the reception. A man staring out a window at nothing. What they don't picture is someone feeling numb, or mildly irritated, or — and this is the one that sends people into a tailspin — relieved.
Relief is the most misunderstood response to a difficult father's death. It doesn't mean you wanted him gone. It often means you spent years bracing for something — a phone call, a confrontation, another episode — and now that particular tension is permanently over. Relief is not absence of love. It's not even absence of grief. It's what happens when someone who complicated your nervous system for decades is no longer in the world.
But then the guilt arrives. Guilt about the relief. Guilt about not crying at the funeral. Guilt about the anger that surfaces at weird, inconvenient moments — stuck in traffic, folding laundry, watching some other guy hug his dad at a game. Grief researchers call this complicated grief or ambiguous loss, and it shows up differently than the grief most of us were taught to expect. There's no clean wave of sadness. Instead, there's a tangled knot of numbness, irritability, a strange flatness where sorrow is supposed to live, and occasional flares of something that feels like mourning but comes out sideways as rage.
This isn't the absence of grief. It's arguably the harder version of it. Because there's no socially acceptable script for grieving someone you're also angry at, or afraid of, or simply spent a lifetime trying to survive.
If you've found yourself wondering whether something is wrong with you because you haven't cried — nothing is wrong with you. You're grieving. It just doesn't look the way anyone told you it would. And if you want to read more about the way grief hides itself, Grief Doesn't Look Like Grief: Learning to Read the Signs You Keep Missing gets into exactly that.
You're Not Mourning the Man Who Died. You're Mourning the Dad You Never Had.
This is the part that takes a while to land.
Men who grew up with difficult fathers don't usually begin grieving when their dad dies. The grief started long before that — sometimes in childhood, sometimes in a slow accumulation of moments across decades. The coaching that never happened. The approval that never came. The time you needed him to show up and he didn't, or worse, he showed up badly. The relationship that existed primarily in its own failure.
What the death does is finalize it. It converts possibility into past tense. For as long as your father was alive, there was — even if you'd long stopped believing it — some theoretical chance of repair. A conversation. A late-in-life change of heart. A deathbed acknowledgment. The death removes that possibility permanently. And that is often what the tears are actually for, when they finally come. Not the man. The father you needed him to be.
Psychologists sometimes call this the grief of the unlived relationship. It's grief for the version of your childhood that didn't happen, for the kind of dad who would have showed up to things, who would have known how to say he was proud, who wouldn't have made you feel like you had to earn basic warmth. That grief is real. It predates the death by years, sometimes decades. The death just makes it impossible to avoid anymore.
For men who've carried this weight quietly, the death can actually be the first time they allow themselves to feel any of it. The permission structure shifts. There's no longer a person to protect, to manage, to keep at arm's length. What's left is just the reckoning — and it can come in at full force, or in strange, partial waves, or both.
This is also why grief after a difficult father can be so disorienting for the people around you. They expect you to look sad. You might look angry, or fine, or confusingly okay, or suddenly preoccupied with old memories you've never mentioned. All of it is grief. None of it is wrong.
The Social Landmines
The funeral is usually the first one.
You're standing there in a room full of people who knew a different version of your dad. His coworkers. His friends. The neighbors who thought he was a great guy. And they're going to say things to you with complete sincerity — he was so proud of you, he talked about you all the time, he was one of the good ones — and you're going to have to decide, in real time, what to do with that.
You can nod. You can say thank you. You can hold the contradiction of that man and your man in the same moment without resolving it, because there's a room full of people and this is not the time. But it sits in you afterward, unresolved, which is its own kind of weight.
Siblings make this harder. If you grew up in the same house and had genuinely different experiences of the same father — which happens more often than people acknowledge — watching a sibling grieve openly when you can't can feel alienating. Or you grieve and they don't, and the gap between you widens. It can pull families apart at exactly the moment everyone's supposed to be pulling together. Navigating Family Conflict After Loss: How to Honor Your Dad Without Losing Your Family addresses that specific fracture.
Then there's the performance expectation. A difficult father's death still comes with social ceremony — the obituary, the gathering, the acknowledgments. And in those spaces, there's enormous pressure to perform a grief that matches the occasion. To say something kind, or at least neutral. To look the part.
You don't owe anyone a performance. But navigating these moments without lying, without collapsing, and without blowing up decades of family dynamics requires something specific: knowing what you actually feel before someone asks you to describe it in public. That means giving yourself permission, somewhere private, to be honest about what this loss is and isn't for you. Not for the eulogy. Just for yourself.
Practically, this means: you don't have to call him a great man if he wasn't. You can say he was complicated or we had a difficult relationship and most people will accept that and move on. You're not required to canonize him because he died. Death doesn't retroactively simplify what a person was.
The Question of Forgiveness — and Why You Don't Have to Answer It
Someone will raise it. A well-meaning relative, a therapist, a book you pick up. The idea that forgiveness is the destination. That grief resolves when you finally forgive, that closure comes packaged with it, that carrying anger into the future means you haven't healed.
This is incomplete, at best. At worst, it's another way of asking you to perform something for other people's comfort.
Forgiveness — in whatever form it takes — is a private reckoning, not a public obligation. Some men get there. Some don't, and live full, meaningful lives anyway. What the death actually asks of you is not forgiveness. It asks you to figure out how to exist in a world where the wound won't get worse, but it also won't get the acknowledgment it was owed.
That's not nothing. In some ways it's the hardest version of the work: grieving damage that was real, without the person who caused it ever being held accountable for it. No apology came. No late-night phone call where he finally said what needed saying. And now it won't.
What's available to you instead is something less cinematic but more real: understanding what the relationship cost you, deciding what you want to carry forward and what you're willing to set down, and building, slowly, a version of yourself that doesn't require him to have been different in order to be okay.
Megan Devine's It's OK That You're Not OK is worth reading here. She doesn't promise a process that ends in peace. She offers something harder and more honest: a way to be with what's true without needing it to be otherwise.
Moving Through It — Not Past It
There's no timeline on this. Men who had loving fathers sometimes find the grief settling into something softer after a year. Men who had difficult fathers sometimes find the grief gets louder after the first year, when the initial noise of logistics and family management clears and there's nothing left to do but feel it.
A few things tend to help, not because they fix it, but because they create a little more room:
Talking to someone who gets it. Not necessarily a therapist, though that can be valuable — but someone who understands that this kind of grief is real without requiring you to justify it. Communities and conversations built around exactly this experience exist. The Dead Dads podcast was started precisely because Roger Nairn and Scott Cunningham couldn't find the conversation they were looking for after losing their own fathers. Not every episode maps onto the complicated-father experience, but the underlying premise — that men need space to talk honestly about loss without the expected performance — applies whether your dad was a hero or a problem.
Not rushing the narrative. There's pressure, after a difficult parent dies, to arrive at a tidy story quickly. He did his best. He had his own trauma. He loved in the ways he could. Some of that may be true. But it's okay to let the story be unresolved for a while. You don't have to eulogize him in your own head by next month.
Recognizing what this loss brings up about you, not just him. For many men, a difficult father's death surfaces questions about their own identity — as sons, as men, as fathers themselves. What did I inherit? What am I repeating? What do I refuse to pass on? These aren't comfortable questions, but they're often where the most meaningful work happens. If you're raising kids of your own, this particular strand of grief can feel especially urgent. What Losing My Dad Taught Me About Being One to My Own Kids is worth your time if that's where you are.
Letting yourself grieve what was good, too. Even the hardest fathers had moments. A specific thing they said once. The way they made breakfast, or fixed something, or showed up to exactly one game. Allowing those moments to matter doesn't mean you're minimizing the damage. It means you're telling the truth about a complicated person, which is the only way to actually process who they were.
You're not broken for feeling relieved. You're not broken for feeling nothing. You're not broken for feeling a grief that looks nothing like what anyone around you expected.
You're grieving a complicated man in an honest way. That takes more out of you than the other kind.
If you want to leave a message about your dad — whatever version of him there was — you can do that at deaddadspodcast.com. No performance required.


