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My Dad Was a Flawed Man. That's Exactly Why His Legacy Matters.

· · by The Dead Dads Podcast

Turning your dead dad into a saint erases who he actually was. Here

The eulogies all sound the same. A saint walks in, a saint gets buried, and somewhere between the potato salad and the folding chairs, the actual man disappears.

If you want to honor your dad, stop protecting him from his own story.

The Sainthood Starts Before the Funeral

Within hours of the call, something shifts. The arguments you were holding onto suddenly feel wrong to mention. The complicated stuff — the temper, the distance, the years when he got it badly wrong — goes quiet. Not because anyone asks you to stay quiet. Just because the room changes, and you change with it.

This is almost universal. The impulse to smooth out the edges is not a character flaw. It comes from somewhere genuine: love, loyalty, the discomfort of speaking ill of someone who can no longer respond. In patriarchal cultures especially, as the writer Faith Oneya noted in a 2024 piece, admitting a father's imperfection is treated as a kind of betrayal. The backlash against those who try is fast and heavy.

But loyalty and honesty are not the same thing. What feels like protection in the first days after a loss is often just avoidance wearing a respectful coat. You're not protecting him. He's gone. You're protecting yourself from the discomfort of holding two things at once: that he was a real person, and that real people are difficult.

The version of him that emerges after the smoothing is easier to manage. It is also a stranger.

You Cannot Grieve a Myth

Here's the problem with the saint version: it has no weight. You cannot carry it forward. You cannot argue with it, learn from it, or recognize yourself in it. And grief that gets stuck — the kind that sits in the chest for years without moving — is often grief for someone who has been replaced by a story too clean to be real.

Megan Devine's It's OK That You're Not OK makes the case that grief resists resolution when it can't land anywhere real. A polished myth gives grief nowhere to land. The loss feels abstract, which means it never quite processes. You spend years mourning the idea of a man instead of the actual one, and the actual one — the complicated, fallible, occasionally infuriating man — stays buried under good intentions.

The men who seem to carry loss the longest are often the ones who loved their fathers most and changed the story hardest. The sanitizing is an act of devotion. But devotion to a fiction eventually hollows out. You can only hold a lie, even a loving one, for so long before it starts to feel like you're grieving someone you never actually knew.

That sense — did I even know him? — is one of the stranger side effects of loss. If you've felt it, it may be worth asking whether the version of him you've been carrying is the real one.

Honesty Is Not a Demolition

There's a version of "being honest about your dad" that is just score-settling with a corpse. That's not what this is. If the first thing you want to do with an honest reckoning is list every wound, every failure, every way he let you down, that's not remembrance. That's a different kind of myth, one built in the other direction.

Seeing your father clearly means holding the contradiction. The thing he got wrong and the thing he got right, sometimes in the same afternoon. Marvin Olasky, writing about his own complicated relationship with his father in Lament for a Father, describes piecing together his dad through Harvard archives, newspaper clippings, and family photos — a school principal with a Harvard degree who still managed to be aloof, stoic, disappointing. What he found was not a villain. It was a mosaic: a man shaped by his own history, whose silences had explanations even if they had no excuse.

That is the goal. Not verdict. Mosaic.

One of the listener reviews on Dead Dads captures it well: "Touches on things that we as guys either don't discuss or are afraid to discuss about the deaths of our dads." What we're afraid to discuss is usually not the worst of it. It's the specific texture of a real person — the way he was great on Saturdays and impossible on Mondays, the way he could make you feel like the most important person in the room and then vanish emotionally for six weeks. That texture is the man. Without it, there is no one left to miss.

Honesty here means precision. Not cruelty. The line between them is intention. Are you trying to understand him, or are you trying to win an argument he's no longer alive to have? One of those moves you forward. The other keeps you in a courtroom that closed the day he died.

The Flaws Are the Part Your Kids Will Recognize in You

Here is where it gets personal, and where most men stop the conversation before it gets there.

The parts of your father you're most tempted to bury — the temper, the stubbornness, the emotional shutdown, the way he worked instead of talked — are often exactly what you've inherited. Not entirely, not without variation. But enough. Enough that your kids will see it in you someday, if they haven't already.

When you stop talking about those parts of your father, you do two things at once. You erase him a little further. And you leave your own kids without a map. They will see those same qualities in you, and they'll have no language for it, no story that explains where it came from, no context that lets them understand it as human rather than just confusing or hurtful.

The writer Will Wright, reflecting on his own complicated father in a piece about forgiving paternal failure, described realizing that his father's repeated business disasters across Latin America — the moves, the financial chaos, the drinking — had also produced in Wright a self-reliance and an international literacy he'd carried his entire career. The failure was real. So was what it built. He found both things true simultaneously, and it changed how he thought about what he'd pass on.

That is the inheritance question nobody asks directly: what do your kids get when you only give them the edited version?

If you never acknowledge your father's temper, your kids can't make sense of yours. If you never talk about his silence, they can't put your silence in context. The honest portrait — flaws included, held alongside the real goodness — is the thing that actually transmits. It's what makes a person legible across generations. A polished saint transmits nothing, because no one living can see themselves in a saint.

This is explored more directly in What Your Kids Inherit When You Stop Talking About Your Dad. The short version: silence doesn't protect them. It just removes the context.

What Passing Down a Real Portrait Looks Like

This doesn't require a formal conversation, a family meeting, or anything that sounds like a therapy exercise. It is usually smaller than that.

It looks like telling a story where your dad got something wrong, and also one where he got something right, in the same sitting. It looks like saying "your grandfather had a hard time with that too" instead of either pretending the pattern doesn't exist or pretending he was the only one who had it. It looks like letting the complicated moments breathe instead of rushing to the part where everything turned out okay.

One Thrive Global piece described the author's father as "not a perfect father, but the perfect father for me." That framing is worth sitting with. Not because it resolves anything, but because it refuses to collapse the man into a single verdict. He failed in specific ways. He also showed up in specific ways. Both are true. The specific truth is the only kind that carries.

The grief for a real person is harder than grief for a saint. There is more to sit with, more contradiction to hold, more moments that resist easy categorization. But it moves. It has somewhere to go. And it is the only kind of grief that eventually turns into something you can actually carry forward rather than drag behind you.

Roger Nairn and Scott Cunningham started Dead Dads because they couldn't find the conversation they were looking for after their own fathers died. Not the grief-as-journey version. The real one. The version where the man was complicated and the loss was too, and nobody was rushing anyone toward closure.

That is what honest remembrance feels like. Not a takedown. Not a eulogy. Just the actual person, held steadily enough that the people who come after you will know who they're descended from.

If you want to go further with this, How to Carry Your Father's Legacy Forward Without Forcing It is the next place to go. The flaws are part of what you carry. That is not a problem. It is the point.

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